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# Comments
Comments: 1077
blueblueelectricblue [2011-02-28 20:10:35 +0000 UTC]
Thanks so much for the comment, really made my day.
I'm gonna have to follow your flickr now :[ its a shame you left devart.
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stateless In reply to blueblueelectricblue [2011-03-01 02:00:49 +0000 UTC]
thanks!
I shall miss getting Sound and Vision stuck in my head every time I see your name
unless of course your flickr name is the same...
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makepictures [2011-02-17 07:41:35 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the favorite on Disnyland. So glad you appreciate it.
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stateless In reply to makepictures [2011-02-17 23:11:46 +0000 UTC]
no problem the complexity of detail becomes textural and is well-handled
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Viv-Leoni In reply to stateless [2010-12-23 20:26:50 +0000 UTC]
Good, lookin' forward then.
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makepictures [2010-12-07 23:23:33 +0000 UTC]
I could write this as a comment to any of the photographs you have posted recently and I would be happy to see it as a comment to every one of those images. You have developed such a perfect eye for your work that watching your posts becomes an exquisite exercise in absorbing a virtuoso performance - - always intense but also skirting the potential of exhaustion of talent. But you manage with each turn to produce a striking interpretation of elements that are otherwise, to a passerby, completely mundane. I look at the surround of one of your images and wonder if I could "see" what you produce from these locations and always come up empty. It's as if you apply the perfect frame, angle play of light and color to a gray world and infuse it with a strength of impression no one else could find.
Thanks so much for the onslaught and stay on the edge of the wire however many feet above the surface you travel.
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makepictures In reply to stateless [2010-12-08 19:42:18 +0000 UTC]
Your interest in the medium (cameras, digital, film, sensors, scans and so forth) is understandable for among other reasons you have an advanced degree in photography and so should want to put technical learning and technical philosophy to use and because your most successful work, in my opinion, has something to do visually with a wide angle Hasselblad (or at least the format, camera and lens provide a consistency in materials).
Me, I'm from the school of no school - - learned to make pictures sweeping floors, developing film, assisting and printing for professionals in New York starting at 15. I intentionally went to school in anything other than art or specifically photography (although I did teach a bit).
The great Willie Moscone, [link] , was asked about what equipment someone should use to be a really great pool player. He said, you can shoot pool with a broom stick as long as you have the eye and the stroke. That's how I feel about making pictures. And you particularly and by grace as well as hard work have the eye and you have the stroke and the rest of it is mostly un-interesting for me in terms of expression (although I can do some equipment geekery within the limited scope of my technical knowledge).
I believe the famous quote "The medium is the message" came from a pop media pundit who simply lacked the skills to make messages and so talked about the medium instead as a distraction to his own limitations.
Artists have a message. It is the messaging that resonates.
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makepictures In reply to stateless [2010-12-09 03:34:24 +0000 UTC]
When I used the term "messaging" my meaning was as a variant of a focus on the message. But you used the medium of words to turn the phrase such that messaging became a reference to the medium - - a working example of the symbiosis between medium and message. The distinction between these terms is chickens and eggs, like intentions and perceptions. Still, we would agree in the end what comes out must be Art. If it's not, it is not.
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makepictures In reply to stateless [2010-12-08 21:46:40 +0000 UTC]
I used "messaging" as a distancing from the medium and I appreciate that you turned it to your other use - - an example of how the medium (words) can be crafted to alter the resulting "message." Art and artifice are chickens and eggs as are perception and intentions but if they fail to land in Art, they are not that. I feel certain we see this the same way.
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makepictures In reply to stateless [2010-12-09 03:36:27 +0000 UTC]
Sorry for the sort of double post. My account has gone a bit wonky today and it appeared my comment had simply disappeared.
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The-InvisibleFriend In reply to stateless [2010-07-27 10:53:32 +0000 UTC]
"Something bothers me about the form in digital camera pictures that is hard to describe"
I think absolutely everyone who was introduced to photography via film feels exactly the same way. there's always that "something" else, and perhaps, it might just be that you have figured it out. One always assumes that its the grain or the imperfections of film that stands out. or gives one "that" feeling, but maybe its the lack of interpolation. or no interpolation in fact.
As for the distortion, I cant honestly say that I notice it, but you do have a lot more experience with the two mediums than myself, so visually your eyes are trained far beyond mine. but, there definitely is a significant difference.Its just unfortunate that these differences are not moving in the favour of film most of the time.
but yes, you are correct. in the end, both are different and are intended to be used differently. subjectively.
but you know, lately, i've really been trying to get away from all the technical photographic stuff and YOU are not helping at all. Why instead of how damnit!
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stateless In reply to The-InvisibleFriend [2010-10-11 17:45:31 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, just remembered I had forgotten to reply to this
In my case I actually came to photography through digital cameras and switched to film after doing my own research and tests (having at that time realized that most of the supposed film vs digital comparisons on the Internet were bogus and not accurate or fair comparisons... coincidentally many of the sites doing these comparisons have sponsorship ties to Nikon and Canon, while others are just plain incompetent or ignorant of best practices).
That's interesting, though 4x5 and larger definitely do not show grain and they still stand out in my mind from digital images, so I think it is larger than a matter of flaws. When film does show flaws it is definitely a different quality though, a graceful failure, while digital's flaws are abrupt (like blown-out areas of value) and more often catastrophic (like a corrupt file) which are interesting things in their own right. I think work is always a collaborative effort between a person, tools and materials, and so the nature of the equipment always holds some level of importance.
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robynthepaperboy In reply to stateless [2010-03-18 16:33:11 +0000 UTC]
that fits very well for urban photographer
does the camera use 120mm film?
what's your favourite artist?
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stateless In reply to robynthepaperboy [2010-03-19 14:27:43 +0000 UTC]
yup, it takes 120
Brent Bennett [link] [link]
and Lee Friedlander [link]
how about you?
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robynthepaperboy In reply to stateless [2010-03-20 01:31:48 +0000 UTC]
Very nice stuff, are those pictures taken by hasselblad too?
I admire those works.
Btw, I found this link on the blog, very nice concept of classic family portrait I guess Sheron Rupp
What do you think?
I'm currently using holga (I adore the light-leak).
Recently, I accidentally ruin the internal flash though, don't know how to fix it there are some issues with the wires
btw I just found an 80's japan camera in my house.
hopefully I can make good photograph with it
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stateless In reply to robynthepaperboy [2010-03-21 20:51:47 +0000 UTC]
Brent uses a variety of different cameras. The square shots were mostly made with a Rolleiflex. Rolleiflex is better than Hasselblad (Hasselblads are good, but not necessarily the best... but it doesn't really matter which camera is used because they can all be used to make good pictures). Lee Friedlander uses a Hasselblad SWC like I mainly do.
Yeah, Sheron Rupp does some amazing work. Like Lee Friedlander she is using a wide-angle lens.
The Holga is a fun camera. I've used one before about 4 years ago: the bw square shots in this set
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robynthepaperboy In reply to stateless [2010-03-22 14:45:27 +0000 UTC]
Brent's works have good depth on the lines.
I feel inspired to do experimental black and white.
Your holga works reflect something aloof and silent: I like it just the way it is. Especially "Uncanny 03" and "untitled holga 9". Very neat light-proportion, I don't know that holga can produce a picture that clean.
How do you do that? Tell me your secret recipe Mr. Stateless :d
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stateless In reply to robynthepaperboy [2010-03-23 00:41:08 +0000 UTC]
thanks haha no secret, I just had a decent holga (they vary from camera to camera) and mine was reasonably sharp in a few small areas. I did focus it accurately and expose it properly. I also taped it up so there were no light leaks (light leaks will change the contrast and I wanted it sharp)
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robynthepaperboy In reply to stateless [2010-03-25 11:14:14 +0000 UTC]
Hello stateless.
I just watch the works of vivian maier
(thanks to the links on your blog!)
Somehow those works look very captivating.
Classic photography feels genuine, candid, it tells a story as it is. I admire her works, especially her self-portrait work (the one with the mirror).
What do you think?
It's all very new to me and I just feel overwhelmed by classic photography.
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stateless In reply to robynthepaperboy [2010-03-25 14:00:29 +0000 UTC]
yes, she had some interesting work
there is so much available to see for classic photography that it is hard to know where to start.
Eugene Atget is a good one to look at. He is in many ways the father of street photography.
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makepictures [2010-01-13 18:52:05 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the fav on my latest. It's a new camera and I was also playing with processing in raw - - so much fun.
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makepictures [2009-08-31 18:43:58 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the fav on Isabella at Cocktails. I really worked on that one and was really pleased at the end.
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blueblueelectricblue [2009-07-13 13:40:20 +0000 UTC]
Thank you SO much for suggesting my work for a DD. It means SO much to me!
Thank you thank you thank you!
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